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		<title>SkillsKnowhow</title>
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				<updated>2012-11-05T16:14:31Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Rotwang: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Do you need to learn, grok, grasp, make, dig, instrument utilize something and searching for a skill, knowhow, here you might find the person who has it. And why not share what you know ?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Pictures of some of the people listed in this table can be found on the [[people]] page.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{| class=&amp;quot;wikitable&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! Skill/Knowhow&lt;br /&gt;
! TeachorLearnorHelp&lt;br /&gt;
! User(s)&lt;br /&gt;
! Level&lt;br /&gt;
! Tell me more about it&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Basic Lasercutting&lt;br /&gt;
| teach&lt;br /&gt;
| Molarch&lt;br /&gt;
| Basic &lt;br /&gt;
| I've had a small lasercutter for a year so if you have questions when starting out please feel free to ask and I'll try to help.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Video Mapping&lt;br /&gt;
| Help/Learn&lt;br /&gt;
| Dadabit&lt;br /&gt;
| Novice&lt;br /&gt;
| I would like to do a bit of video mapping to surfaces, tips tricks. Got a pocket projector to experiment with some starter software. let me know if you have a project related and want a co-mapper.  &lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Basic electronics&lt;br /&gt;
| teach or (lets say help)&lt;br /&gt;
| Dadabit&lt;br /&gt;
| fair enough&lt;br /&gt;
| sensors, microcontrollers, connecting the system to computer software. If you want a colloboration and help for a nice project of yours I might hop in.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|Basic electronics&lt;br /&gt;
|help&lt;br /&gt;
|alexrice&lt;br /&gt;
|variable&lt;br /&gt;
|PIC microcontrollers (rusty), AVR microcontrollers (basic), analogue electronics related to audio, &lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|Oxy-fuel welding, brazing, silver soldering&lt;br /&gt;
|help / teach&lt;br /&gt;
|alexrice&lt;br /&gt;
|functional but not always pretty&lt;br /&gt;
|Have required equipment&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|Manual machining&lt;br /&gt;
|teach&lt;br /&gt;
|alexrice&lt;br /&gt;
|good&lt;br /&gt;
|Manual milling and turning on small lathes and mills, metric and imperial screw cutting&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|3D CAD&lt;br /&gt;
|Help/Teach/Learn&lt;br /&gt;
|brice&lt;br /&gt;
|novice&lt;br /&gt;
|Some basic experience on 3D mechanical CAD/drafting&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|Digital electronics&lt;br /&gt;
|Help/Teach/Learn&lt;br /&gt;
|brice&lt;br /&gt;
|intermediate&lt;br /&gt;
|multiplexing strategy/persistence of vision. Ardui-fu&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|Programming&lt;br /&gt;
|Help/Teach/Learn&lt;br /&gt;
|brice&lt;br /&gt;
|intermediate/advanced&lt;br /&gt;
|Particularly interested in learning about dynamic, interactive simulations in functional langages. (clojurescript+processing=dynamic simulation in your browser?) Can give introduction to programming on processing/arduino. Can contribute to code projects at any level of complexity. &lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|Programming&lt;br /&gt;
|Help / Teach&lt;br /&gt;
|Martin_de_S&lt;br /&gt;
|Intermediate&lt;br /&gt;
|I'm a professional coder- I can help out with HTML/CSS/JS web coding, scripting languages, C++, C for Arduino, some Linux SH etc.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|Arduino (software and electronics)&lt;br /&gt;
|Help / Teach&lt;br /&gt;
|Martin_de_S&lt;br /&gt;
|Intermediate&lt;br /&gt;
|I've spent a fair while playing with the Arduino and interfacing with other bits and pieces. If you want specific help with a project or are wondering what to do after blinking an LED I'll try to help out&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|Cool software&lt;br /&gt;
|Help / Teach&lt;br /&gt;
|[[User:rjw57|Rich Wareham]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Can teach to any level&lt;br /&gt;
|I can help you with coding in almost any language. I'm very interested in designing cool bits of software to do cool things.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|Signal Processing (more the old school variety)&lt;br /&gt;
|Help / Teach / (and certainly learn)&lt;br /&gt;
|[[User:heng|Henry Gomersall]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Advanced&lt;br /&gt;
|I'm a full time signal processing engineer from an academic background. More the old school stuff (transforms, sparsity and the like) but I'm keen to improve my stats-fu.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|Programming&lt;br /&gt;
|Help / Teach&lt;br /&gt;
|[[User:heng|Henry Gomersall]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Intermediate&lt;br /&gt;
|Python and C (and getting them to work together!). A few years full time experience, but not quite a guru yet. (also Matlab, but I have strong feelings about that).&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|Programming&lt;br /&gt;
|Help / Teach&lt;br /&gt;
|[[User:Wojciech|Wojciech Meyer]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Any level&lt;br /&gt;
|I can do C, C++ equally good, but mostly OCaml these days (equally well we can do Haskell or Scheme). Up to pair programming.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|Computers / Software&lt;br /&gt;
|Help / Teach / Learn&lt;br /&gt;
|[[User:Phil|Phil Cowans]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Advanced&lt;br /&gt;
|Mainly C/C++/Ruby, low level things, systems (esp. Linux), networking etc. Interested in machine learning, computer vision, graphics, things with matrices, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|Digital Electronics&lt;br /&gt;
|Learn / Stumble blindly with others&lt;br /&gt;
|[[User:Phil|Phil Cowans]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Beginner-ish&lt;br /&gt;
|Limited experience (and pretty rusty too), interested in embedded systems, microcontrollers, robotics, etc. &lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|Machining&lt;br /&gt;
|Help / Learn&lt;br /&gt;
|[[User:Phil|Phil Cowans]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Beginner&lt;br /&gt;
|Generally keen to make something physical - happy to help out anywhere I can be useful.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|Programming / Software&lt;br /&gt;
|Teach / Learn&lt;br /&gt;
|[[User:Elsmorian|Chris Elsmore]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Intermediate&lt;br /&gt;
|I mostly use Python, JavaScript, ObjectiveC, and have some experience of Java &amp;amp; C. Always willing try and help, and learn new things!&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|Electronics / Hardware&lt;br /&gt;
|Help / Learn&lt;br /&gt;
|[[User:Elsmorian|Chris Elsmore]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Intermediate&lt;br /&gt;
|Familiar with basic analogue &amp;amp; digital circuits, Arduino, as above, always willing try and help, and learn new things!&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|Metalwork, Machining and Woodwork&lt;br /&gt;
|Learn&lt;br /&gt;
|[[User:Elsmorian|Chris Elsmore]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Beginner&lt;br /&gt;
|Haven't done any serious work since school, but I really enjoyed it, and would love to get back into it!&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|Metalwork&lt;br /&gt;
|Teach/Learn&lt;br /&gt;
|[[User:Rotwang|Roger Smith]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Hedgerow Engineer&lt;br /&gt;
|Orthodox and Unorthodox Engineering a speciality&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Kit wishlist</title>
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				<updated>2012-11-03T13:00:43Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Rotwang: /* Woodwork/metalwork */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;A list of things people would like to see in Makespace. We can't guarantee when or if we'll get any of this kit, but if there's something you'd like, let us know here.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To help us prioritise what to get, please create and vote over at http://makespace.uservoice.com/forums/179819-kit-list&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If an item below can be fabricated safely using existing kit, then it should be built, not bought!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
When thinking about buying kit (or even making it) we need to consider [[The Real Cost of Equipment]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In Autumn 2012 we are considering a £1k / month [[Kit wishlist: basic infrastructure budget]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''The below lists desirable tools and equipment. For basic makespace infrastructure, some items are collected on [[Kit wishlist: basic infrastructure budget]]''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===The FabLab kit===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Briefly:  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Fab Labs share core capabilities, so that people and projects can be shared across them. This currently includes:&lt;br /&gt;
1.	A computer-controlled lasercutter, for press-fit assembly of 3D structures from 2D parts &lt;br /&gt;
2.	A larger (4'x8') numerically-controlled milling machine, for making furniture- (and house-)&lt;br /&gt;
sized parts &lt;br /&gt;
3.	A vinylcutter, to produce signs, printing masks, flexible circuits, and antennas &lt;br /&gt;
4.	A precision (micron resolution) milling machine to make three-dimensional moulds and&lt;br /&gt;
surface-mounted circuit boards &lt;br /&gt;
5.	Electronics assembly &lt;br /&gt;
6.	Programming tools for low-cost high-speed embedded processors &lt;br /&gt;
7.	Sewing and embroidery equipment &lt;br /&gt;
8.	You can read more about how Fab Labs started by following this link. www.cba.mit.edu.&lt;br /&gt;
There is also a wealth of know how on Fab Lab equipment and projects.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A la Manchester:&lt;br /&gt;
*    Dimension 1200es Series 3D Printer&lt;br /&gt;
*    Epilog Mini 24 Laser Cutter&lt;br /&gt;
*    Roland Modela MDX-20 Desktop Miller&lt;br /&gt;
*    Roland Vinyl Cutter&lt;br /&gt;
*    Shopbot CNC Router&lt;br /&gt;
*    Janome Memory Craft 200e Embroidery Machine&lt;br /&gt;
*    'Fab Vac' Vac former&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Woodwork/metalwork===&lt;br /&gt;
* Aluminium forming (because local providers aren't very good)&lt;br /&gt;
* A big sturdy workbench with a vice&lt;br /&gt;
* Hacksaws and files&lt;br /&gt;
* A mini drilling/milling machine, for example http://www.chestermachinetools.com/Products/Product.aspx?productID=500 for making PCBs and light wood and metal work. {broken link - 3/11/2012 - roger)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Dremel/rotary tool - many brands available; [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JyTf1tJXXo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JyTf1tJXXo] is a helpful comparison of Proxxon and Dremel mini tools and drill stands.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* a small manual lathe eg http://www.chestermachinetools.com/Products/Product.aspx?productID=2 plus lathe tools and a bench grinder to sharpen them.&lt;br /&gt;
{Chester appear to have re-organised the website so this link is broken}&lt;br /&gt;
 I assume something like the Conquest Super is what you meant. Also take the 4-way tool-carrier off and throw it away, fit a quick-change toolpost and use indexable carbide tip tooling, grinding HSS lathe tools is a special skill. (roger)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* A lathe manual or CNC which can cut steel comfortably, so with coolant and colchester studentish sized with digital readout&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Any decent bench drillpress, with drills, holding vice, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
* A floor standing pillar drill&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* A CNC mill conversion just like http://www.jarkman.co.uk/catalog/cnc/taigcnc.htm  Good for PCBs and a lot else. Plus cutters and workholding bits. It will need its own PC, too.  Also see http://www.jarkman.co.uk/catalog/cnc/&lt;br /&gt;
* If possible a real mill with some kind of cnc conversion with low speed settings or just a digital readout&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* A bandsaw that will run horizontal or vertical (but mostly horizontal, for chopping the ends off bars)  eg  http://www.chesteruk.net/store/hv128_bandsaw.htm&lt;br /&gt;
* another option for a chopoff saw is a circular mitre saw eg: http://www.screwfix.com/p/evolution-rage-3-255mm-compound-sliding-mitre-saw-230v/65730 though possibly something a bit more robust. Then you could get a conventional bandsaw&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* a plasma cutter (to cut steel sheet etc - more than the laser cutter is capable of)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Welder&lt;br /&gt;
** Arc welder (a bit yuk)&lt;br /&gt;
** MIG welder (cheap and easy to use)&lt;br /&gt;
** TTG welder (suitable for aluminium)&lt;br /&gt;
** Welder misc: gas (eg BOC) + cage + bolt to wall, wire, tips, gloves, apron, head shields, lightproof/fireproof curtained area to protect other workers&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* expect more ideas from cambridge Science Centre people :)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Decent belt/disc sander/linisher&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Polisher for plastics and others (a grinder with attachments)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Measuring tools - digital calipers, micrometers etc&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Sheet metal folder&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Pipe bender&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Electronics/PCB tools===&lt;br /&gt;
* Temperature-controlled soldering station(s)&lt;br /&gt;
* Toaster oven (for reflow soldering)&lt;br /&gt;
* Fume extractor(s) for above&lt;br /&gt;
* Bench power supplies (e.g. a mix of 5V, 12V, variable, and multi-rail PSUs)&lt;br /&gt;
* PCB holders or &amp;quot;helping hands&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
* Side cutters&lt;br /&gt;
* Abrasive pen&lt;br /&gt;
* Heatsink tweezers&lt;br /&gt;
* Multimeter(s)&lt;br /&gt;
* Oscilloscope (digital and/or analog)&lt;br /&gt;
* Logic Analyser&lt;br /&gt;
* Signal generator&lt;br /&gt;
* Wire&lt;br /&gt;
* Selection of basic components (res, caps, v-reg, basic digital logic, basic IC's - 555,358, connectors, cable)&lt;br /&gt;
* Some way to order parts (group order to Farnell/RS/Maplin)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
NB. PCB etching baths and etch-resist are probably unnecessary because the milling machines would allow PCBs to be milled instead of etched.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Laser Cutter===&lt;br /&gt;
The bare minimum for me would be something &lt;br /&gt;
capable of cutting an A3 sheet, which probably means 600x450mm. A 1200x900mm[1] machine from Laserscript comes in at about&lt;br /&gt;
£6.5K; a used one went on eBay recently for something like £4.5K.  The&lt;br /&gt;
factory gate price for a similar unit from Shenhui, who are a well-regarded&lt;br /&gt;
Chinese manufacturer, is $4K -sea-freight would come in at $250, and import duty&lt;br /&gt;
appears to be 4.5%.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Some options are at [[Laser cutter]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===3D printing===&lt;br /&gt;
* This is the 3d printer from Portishead: http://www.bitsfrombytes.com/&lt;br /&gt;
* http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2011/08/ultimaker-theres-a-new-3d-printer-in-town.html&lt;br /&gt;
* 3D scanner e.g. http://www.david-laserscanner.com/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Flameworking===&lt;br /&gt;
If we want to be able to make borosilicate glass components at Makespace, we'll need at least the following:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* MAPP gas torch&lt;br /&gt;
* MAPP gas for torch&lt;br /&gt;
* Torch holder with metal or ceramic heatproof bench plate for rolling&lt;br /&gt;
* Shears&lt;br /&gt;
* Carbon paddle&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Textiles=== &lt;br /&gt;
* Knitting machine&lt;br /&gt;
* Sewing machine&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overlock Overlock machine], important in (semi+)professional sewing&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Acrylic working===&lt;br /&gt;
For bonding, shaping or finishing acrylic in ways that can't be done by machining:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Dichloromethane (or Evo-Stik ExtruFix) for bonding acrylic parts&lt;br /&gt;
* Extractor hood/fan to reduce dichloromethane inhalation risk&lt;br /&gt;
* Strip heater or heat gun&lt;br /&gt;
* Acrylic edge scraper&lt;br /&gt;
* Acrylic scorer&lt;br /&gt;
* Fine grit sandpaper&lt;br /&gt;
* Butane or MAPP gas torch for flame polishing (see [[#glassworking]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Gas for torch&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Materials work===&lt;br /&gt;
For development of novel materials or layers, or devices such as solar panels&lt;br /&gt;
* Fume hood or cabinet&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Bio work===&lt;br /&gt;
We have no plans at present to support work with recombinant DNA or other bio work :) &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Safety equipment===&lt;br /&gt;
* Safety glasses&lt;br /&gt;
* Kevlar gloves for cutting&lt;br /&gt;
* Nitrile gloves for handling chemicals&lt;br /&gt;
* Lab coats to keep chemicals/paint off clothes &amp;amp; skin&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===AV kit===&lt;br /&gt;
What about providing Audio Visual equipment for creating audio-visual experiences, interactive or not.&lt;br /&gt;
This can be combined with workshops in animation, film-making, special effects, synthesisers, computer graphics, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Equipment might include: a projector screen (or white wall), a relatively good quality, high-resolution digital projector, amplifier, speakers (with good subwoofer.) Also software for animation, computer graphics, audio synthesis, video editing. Sensors for interactive experience: camera, motion sensors.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One idea is to teach 3D modelling of a character which can be part of a game/video, and also be printed on the 3D printer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Software tools===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
LabVIEW&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Gimp - www.gimp.org/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Blender - www.blender.org/download/get-blender/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Open office - download.openoffice.org/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Inkscape - www.inkscape.org&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Google Sketch up - sketchup.google.com/ with stl plugin&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This plugin seems to work quite well  www.guitar-list.com/download-software/convert-sketchup-skp-files-dxf-or-stl&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
However this program repairs any incomplete stl files www.netfabb.com/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Or this program http://meshlab.sourceforge.net/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Adobe - www.adobe.com/uk/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Qcad - www.qcad.org/qcad.html&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Eagle - www.cadsoftusa.com/freeware.htm&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
MIT Software - http://fab.cba.mit.edu/content/tools/software/cad_cam/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Materials lists===&lt;br /&gt;
====Laser Cutter materials====&lt;br /&gt;
Max Size 300mmx600mm&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Acrylic 3mm - Clear 300mm x 600mm&lt;br /&gt;
* Acrylic 3mm - Various colours 300mm x 600mm&lt;br /&gt;
* Acrylic 6mm - Clear 300mm x 600mm&lt;br /&gt;
* Plywood 3mm Various Sizes&lt;br /&gt;
* MDF 3mm (Laserable) Various Sizes&lt;br /&gt;
* Cardboard 3mm 300mm x 600mm&lt;br /&gt;
* Cardboard 5mm 300mm x 600mm&lt;br /&gt;
* Paper 300mm x 600mm&lt;br /&gt;
* Leather&lt;br /&gt;
* Fabric&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Modella Milling Machine materials====&lt;br /&gt;
Max Size 150x200mm&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Machineable wax 40mm x 90mm x 150mm&lt;br /&gt;
* Circuit boards 1.6mm x 1000mm x 1200mm&lt;br /&gt;
* Wood (Various) 150x200mm&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Shopbot CNC Router materials====&lt;br /&gt;
Max Size 1200mmx 2400mm x 120mm&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Plywood 3-25mm thick&lt;br /&gt;
* MDF 3-25mm thick&lt;br /&gt;
* Aluminium&lt;br /&gt;
* Cast Iron&lt;br /&gt;
* Acrylic 	 &lt;br /&gt;
* Brass 	 &lt;br /&gt;
* Steel 	 &lt;br /&gt;
* Foam 	 &lt;br /&gt;
  	 &lt;br /&gt;
====Vinyl Cutter materials====&lt;br /&gt;
* Copper Tape 3M 1126 	150mm x 33m&lt;br /&gt;
* Vinyl roll (canary yellow) 	380mm wide&lt;br /&gt;
* Vinyl roll (card red) 	380mm wide&lt;br /&gt;
* Vinyl roll (royal blue) 	380mm wide&lt;br /&gt;
* Vinyl roll (cactus green) 	380mm wide&lt;br /&gt;
* Transfer Tape, Permacel 595B 	150mmx 55m&lt;br /&gt;
* WHITE Epoxy film 3M 1 	150mm x 90m&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
====3D Printer materials====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Currently the raw material costs are quite high. Therefore...&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
* ABS plus cartridge (white) 	1000 cm3&lt;br /&gt;
* soluble support cartridge 	1000 cm3&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Additional electronics/PCB materials====&lt;br /&gt;
* Flux-cored solder (please some 60/40 as well as that silly ROHS, for working with older gear and for ease of use!)&lt;br /&gt;
* USB microscope with monitor?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Painting materials====&lt;br /&gt;
* Brushes&lt;br /&gt;
* Water pots&lt;br /&gt;
* Acrylic paints in white, black, red, yellow, blue&lt;br /&gt;
* Clearcoat spray and/or liquid&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Air Tools===&lt;br /&gt;
Can we use the metal air-lines that are already in place?&lt;br /&gt;
Compressor/air for plasma and other airtools&lt;br /&gt;
* Cutting/drilling/polishing airtools&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Useful reference lists===&lt;br /&gt;
IEEE Spectrum: http://spectrum.ieee.org/geek-life/hands-on/diy-essentials/0&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Full fab lab list: http://fab.cba.mit.edu/about/fab/inv.html&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
workshop in a container: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AsejLtLc70nwdG5DeVJmOVA4OUxpcXl6alFaNzh5Unc&amp;amp;hl=en_US#gid=0&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A great outline of prototyping kit and space suggestions from Phil Keenan: https://docs.google.com/open?id=0BwrlF51mx2ojYTQ5MzA1NGItZDBmNi00YmViLWJjODktYzlkM2M1OTAwNmQ0&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Rotwang</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>http://wiki.makespace.org/Kit_wishlist</id>
		<title>Kit wishlist</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://wiki.makespace.org/Kit_wishlist"/>
				<updated>2012-11-03T12:51:51Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Rotwang: /* Woodwork/metalwork */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;A list of things people would like to see in Makespace. We can't guarantee when or if we'll get any of this kit, but if there's something you'd like, let us know here.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To help us prioritise what to get, please create and vote over at http://makespace.uservoice.com/forums/179819-kit-list&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If an item below can be fabricated safely using existing kit, then it should be built, not bought!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
When thinking about buying kit (or even making it) we need to consider [[The Real Cost of Equipment]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In Autumn 2012 we are considering a £1k / month [[Kit wishlist: basic infrastructure budget]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''The below lists desirable tools and equipment. For basic makespace infrastructure, some items are collected on [[Kit wishlist: basic infrastructure budget]]''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===The FabLab kit===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Briefly:  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Fab Labs share core capabilities, so that people and projects can be shared across them. This currently includes:&lt;br /&gt;
1.	A computer-controlled lasercutter, for press-fit assembly of 3D structures from 2D parts &lt;br /&gt;
2.	A larger (4'x8') numerically-controlled milling machine, for making furniture- (and house-)&lt;br /&gt;
sized parts &lt;br /&gt;
3.	A vinylcutter, to produce signs, printing masks, flexible circuits, and antennas &lt;br /&gt;
4.	A precision (micron resolution) milling machine to make three-dimensional moulds and&lt;br /&gt;
surface-mounted circuit boards &lt;br /&gt;
5.	Electronics assembly &lt;br /&gt;
6.	Programming tools for low-cost high-speed embedded processors &lt;br /&gt;
7.	Sewing and embroidery equipment &lt;br /&gt;
8.	You can read more about how Fab Labs started by following this link. www.cba.mit.edu.&lt;br /&gt;
There is also a wealth of know how on Fab Lab equipment and projects.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A la Manchester:&lt;br /&gt;
*    Dimension 1200es Series 3D Printer&lt;br /&gt;
*    Epilog Mini 24 Laser Cutter&lt;br /&gt;
*    Roland Modela MDX-20 Desktop Miller&lt;br /&gt;
*    Roland Vinyl Cutter&lt;br /&gt;
*    Shopbot CNC Router&lt;br /&gt;
*    Janome Memory Craft 200e Embroidery Machine&lt;br /&gt;
*    'Fab Vac' Vac former&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Woodwork/metalwork===&lt;br /&gt;
* Aluminium forming (because local providers aren't very good)&lt;br /&gt;
* A big sturdy workbench with a vice&lt;br /&gt;
* Hacksaws and files&lt;br /&gt;
* A mini drilling/milling machine, for example http://www.chestermachinetools.com/Products/Product.aspx?productID=500 for making PCBs and light wood and metal work. {broken link - 3/11/2012 - roger)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Dremel/rotary tool - many brands available; [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JyTf1tJXXo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JyTf1tJXXo] is a helpful comparison of Proxxon and Dremel mini tools and drill stands.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* a small manual lathe eg http://www.chestermachinetools.com/Products/Product.aspx?productID=2 plus lathe tools and a bench grinder to sharpen them.&lt;br /&gt;
* A lathe manual or CNC which can cut steel comfortably, so wth coolant and colchester studentish sized with digital readout&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Any decent bench drillpress, with drills, holding vice, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
* A floor standing pillar drill&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* A CNC mill conversion just like http://www.jarkman.co.uk/catalog/cnc/taigcnc.htm  Good for PCBs and a lot else. Plus cutters and workholding bits. It will need its own PC, too.  Also see http://www.jarkman.co.uk/catalog/cnc/&lt;br /&gt;
* If possible a real mill with some kind of cnc conversion with low speed settings or just a digital readout&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* A bandsaw that will run horizontal or vertical (but mostly horizontal, for chopping the ends off bars)  eg  http://www.chesteruk.net/store/hv128_bandsaw.htm&lt;br /&gt;
* another option for a chopoff saw is a circular mitre saw eg: http://www.screwfix.com/p/evolution-rage-3-255mm-compound-sliding-mitre-saw-230v/65730 though possibly something a bit more robust. Then you could get a conventional bandsaw&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* a plasma cutter (to cut steel sheet etc - more than the laser cutter is capable of)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Welder&lt;br /&gt;
** Arc welder (a bit yuk)&lt;br /&gt;
** MIG welder (cheap and easy to use)&lt;br /&gt;
** TTG welder (suitable for aluminium)&lt;br /&gt;
** Welder misc: gas (eg BOC) + cage + bolt to wall, wire, tips, gloves, apron, head shields, lightproof/fireproof curtained area to protect other workers&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* expect more ideas from cambridge Science Centre people :)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Decent belt/disc sander/linisher&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Polisher for plastics and others (a grinder with attachments)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Measuring tools - digital calipers, micrometers etc&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Sheet metal folder&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Pipe bender&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Electronics/PCB tools===&lt;br /&gt;
* Temperature-controlled soldering station(s)&lt;br /&gt;
* Toaster oven (for reflow soldering)&lt;br /&gt;
* Fume extractor(s) for above&lt;br /&gt;
* Bench power supplies (e.g. a mix of 5V, 12V, variable, and multi-rail PSUs)&lt;br /&gt;
* PCB holders or &amp;quot;helping hands&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
* Side cutters&lt;br /&gt;
* Abrasive pen&lt;br /&gt;
* Heatsink tweezers&lt;br /&gt;
* Multimeter(s)&lt;br /&gt;
* Oscilloscope (digital and/or analog)&lt;br /&gt;
* Logic Analyser&lt;br /&gt;
* Signal generator&lt;br /&gt;
* Wire&lt;br /&gt;
* Selection of basic components (res, caps, v-reg, basic digital logic, basic IC's - 555,358, connectors, cable)&lt;br /&gt;
* Some way to order parts (group order to Farnell/RS/Maplin)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
NB. PCB etching baths and etch-resist are probably unnecessary because the milling machines would allow PCBs to be milled instead of etched.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Laser Cutter===&lt;br /&gt;
The bare minimum for me would be something &lt;br /&gt;
capable of cutting an A3 sheet, which probably means 600x450mm. A 1200x900mm[1] machine from Laserscript comes in at about&lt;br /&gt;
£6.5K; a used one went on eBay recently for something like £4.5K.  The&lt;br /&gt;
factory gate price for a similar unit from Shenhui, who are a well-regarded&lt;br /&gt;
Chinese manufacturer, is $4K -sea-freight would come in at $250, and import duty&lt;br /&gt;
appears to be 4.5%.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Some options are at [[Laser cutter]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===3D printing===&lt;br /&gt;
* This is the 3d printer from Portishead: http://www.bitsfrombytes.com/&lt;br /&gt;
* http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2011/08/ultimaker-theres-a-new-3d-printer-in-town.html&lt;br /&gt;
* 3D scanner e.g. http://www.david-laserscanner.com/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Flameworking===&lt;br /&gt;
If we want to be able to make borosilicate glass components at Makespace, we'll need at least the following:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* MAPP gas torch&lt;br /&gt;
* MAPP gas for torch&lt;br /&gt;
* Torch holder with metal or ceramic heatproof bench plate for rolling&lt;br /&gt;
* Shears&lt;br /&gt;
* Carbon paddle&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Textiles=== &lt;br /&gt;
* Knitting machine&lt;br /&gt;
* Sewing machine&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overlock Overlock machine], important in (semi+)professional sewing&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Acrylic working===&lt;br /&gt;
For bonding, shaping or finishing acrylic in ways that can't be done by machining:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Dichloromethane (or Evo-Stik ExtruFix) for bonding acrylic parts&lt;br /&gt;
* Extractor hood/fan to reduce dichloromethane inhalation risk&lt;br /&gt;
* Strip heater or heat gun&lt;br /&gt;
* Acrylic edge scraper&lt;br /&gt;
* Acrylic scorer&lt;br /&gt;
* Fine grit sandpaper&lt;br /&gt;
* Butane or MAPP gas torch for flame polishing (see [[#glassworking]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Gas for torch&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Materials work===&lt;br /&gt;
For development of novel materials or layers, or devices such as solar panels&lt;br /&gt;
* Fume hood or cabinet&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Bio work===&lt;br /&gt;
We have no plans at present to support work with recombinant DNA or other bio work :) &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Safety equipment===&lt;br /&gt;
* Safety glasses&lt;br /&gt;
* Kevlar gloves for cutting&lt;br /&gt;
* Nitrile gloves for handling chemicals&lt;br /&gt;
* Lab coats to keep chemicals/paint off clothes &amp;amp; skin&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===AV kit===&lt;br /&gt;
What about providing Audio Visual equipment for creating audio-visual experiences, interactive or not.&lt;br /&gt;
This can be combined with workshops in animation, film-making, special effects, synthesisers, computer graphics, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Equipment might include: a projector screen (or white wall), a relatively good quality, high-resolution digital projector, amplifier, speakers (with good subwoofer.) Also software for animation, computer graphics, audio synthesis, video editing. Sensors for interactive experience: camera, motion sensors.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One idea is to teach 3D modelling of a character which can be part of a game/video, and also be printed on the 3D printer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Software tools===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
LabVIEW&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Gimp - www.gimp.org/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Blender - www.blender.org/download/get-blender/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Open office - download.openoffice.org/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Inkscape - www.inkscape.org&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Google Sketch up - sketchup.google.com/ with stl plugin&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This plugin seems to work quite well  www.guitar-list.com/download-software/convert-sketchup-skp-files-dxf-or-stl&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
However this program repairs any incomplete stl files www.netfabb.com/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Or this program http://meshlab.sourceforge.net/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Adobe - www.adobe.com/uk/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Qcad - www.qcad.org/qcad.html&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Eagle - www.cadsoftusa.com/freeware.htm&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
MIT Software - http://fab.cba.mit.edu/content/tools/software/cad_cam/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Materials lists===&lt;br /&gt;
====Laser Cutter materials====&lt;br /&gt;
Max Size 300mmx600mm&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Acrylic 3mm - Clear 300mm x 600mm&lt;br /&gt;
* Acrylic 3mm - Various colours 300mm x 600mm&lt;br /&gt;
* Acrylic 6mm - Clear 300mm x 600mm&lt;br /&gt;
* Plywood 3mm Various Sizes&lt;br /&gt;
* MDF 3mm (Laserable) Various Sizes&lt;br /&gt;
* Cardboard 3mm 300mm x 600mm&lt;br /&gt;
* Cardboard 5mm 300mm x 600mm&lt;br /&gt;
* Paper 300mm x 600mm&lt;br /&gt;
* Leather&lt;br /&gt;
* Fabric&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Modella Milling Machine materials====&lt;br /&gt;
Max Size 150x200mm&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Machineable wax 40mm x 90mm x 150mm&lt;br /&gt;
* Circuit boards 1.6mm x 1000mm x 1200mm&lt;br /&gt;
* Wood (Various) 150x200mm&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Shopbot CNC Router materials====&lt;br /&gt;
Max Size 1200mmx 2400mm x 120mm&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Plywood 3-25mm thick&lt;br /&gt;
* MDF 3-25mm thick&lt;br /&gt;
* Aluminium&lt;br /&gt;
* Cast Iron&lt;br /&gt;
* Acrylic 	 &lt;br /&gt;
* Brass 	 &lt;br /&gt;
* Steel 	 &lt;br /&gt;
* Foam 	 &lt;br /&gt;
  	 &lt;br /&gt;
====Vinyl Cutter materials====&lt;br /&gt;
* Copper Tape 3M 1126 	150mm x 33m&lt;br /&gt;
* Vinyl roll (canary yellow) 	380mm wide&lt;br /&gt;
* Vinyl roll (card red) 	380mm wide&lt;br /&gt;
* Vinyl roll (royal blue) 	380mm wide&lt;br /&gt;
* Vinyl roll (cactus green) 	380mm wide&lt;br /&gt;
* Transfer Tape, Permacel 595B 	150mmx 55m&lt;br /&gt;
* WHITE Epoxy film 3M 1 	150mm x 90m&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
====3D Printer materials====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Currently the raw material costs are quite high. Therefore...&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
* ABS plus cartridge (white) 	1000 cm3&lt;br /&gt;
* soluble support cartridge 	1000 cm3&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Additional electronics/PCB materials====&lt;br /&gt;
* Flux-cored solder (please some 60/40 as well as that silly ROHS, for working with older gear and for ease of use!)&lt;br /&gt;
* USB microscope with monitor?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Painting materials====&lt;br /&gt;
* Brushes&lt;br /&gt;
* Water pots&lt;br /&gt;
* Acrylic paints in white, black, red, yellow, blue&lt;br /&gt;
* Clearcoat spray and/or liquid&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Air Tools===&lt;br /&gt;
Can we use the metal air-lines that are already in place?&lt;br /&gt;
Compressor/air for plasma and other airtools&lt;br /&gt;
* Cutting/drilling/polishing airtools&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Useful reference lists===&lt;br /&gt;
IEEE Spectrum: http://spectrum.ieee.org/geek-life/hands-on/diy-essentials/0&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Full fab lab list: http://fab.cba.mit.edu/about/fab/inv.html&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
workshop in a container: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AsejLtLc70nwdG5DeVJmOVA4OUxpcXl6alFaNzh5Unc&amp;amp;hl=en_US#gid=0&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A great outline of prototyping kit and space suggestions from Phil Keenan: https://docs.google.com/open?id=0BwrlF51mx2ojYTQ5MzA1NGItZDBmNi00YmViLWJjODktYzlkM2M1OTAwNmQ0&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Rotwang</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>http://wiki.makespace.org/Talk:Kit_wishlist</id>
		<title>Talk:Kit wishlist</title>
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				<updated>2012-11-03T12:48:39Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Rotwang: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;== PCB manufacturing tools ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I disagree with the lack of need for chemical PCB etch/expose equipment. The milling technique is quite slow and expensive and not the a very cost effective use of milling equipment, except maybe for prototyping very small boards. Also the proposed mill will not be able to produce high quality PCB with fine traces and pads for SMT components. [[User:TH|TH]] 17:38, 15 March 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I second that.  Milling is good for drilling holes, and has a niche for fast turnaround tiny boards (ie babysit the machine for 3 hours, not wait a week).  The accuracy is pretty poor, so forget any kind of fine-pitch surface mount (even SOIC is pushing it on our machine).  Milling tips are expensive and snap regularly.  It's very easy to get the depth wrong, snap the tip or gouge great grooves out of your board.  You'll always get far better definition from optical transfer and chemical etch, even basic methods eg laser-printed projector film and UV exposure.  That level of basic chemical etch is worth having, as well as some recommended cheap low-volume board fabs (eg Olimex or pcb.laen.org - both non-UK ones I haven't tried; are there any cheap local ones?) [[User:TheoMarkettos|TheoMarkettos]] 23:56, 20 May 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I'm not convinced either way, yet. If it's a one-off simple project then veroboard etc is probably just as good a way to go. If it's more adventurous, with SM, two or more sides, 0.25mm track and gap or less, etc, then getting PCB made by professionals is likely to work much better. And etch chemicals adds a whole layer of COSH and Health and Safety hassle. [[User:Kim SJ|Kim SJ]] 11:24, 17 October 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There some bag-type etching systems that could be used if you are really eager to do etching. I have made lots of boards with silkscreen, pen, tape, etc and it is a low-quality result unless you put a lot of money into the kit. The best option for Makespace would be laser foil transfer with a small seal-able bag with copper sulfate (ferric cloride is messy and needs spray to do well). As this is almost all consumables (foil and chemical) people who want to do this could do it at home as easily as at makespace. There are low-cost pick and place robots if making PCBs was a big priority however. That needs a lot of boards to justify, and if you have a lot of boards, subcontract it. (Michael)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Loading Trolleys ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Given the fact that we can expect members to be moving some moderately large projects and tools in an out of the space, it would probably be a good idea to have a couple of loading trolleys. In particular this would help with getting heavier items from a car paused in Mill Lane. -- [[User:AndrewD|AndrewD]] 15:48, 2 November 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Workbench ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I have a pipe vice to donate which will grip round stuff from 20mm conduit upwards to a maximum of about 3inch diameter. It needs to be mounted to a reasonably substantial bench. (Roger/rotwang)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Rotwang</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>http://wiki.makespace.org/Talk:Kit_wishlist</id>
		<title>Talk:Kit wishlist</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://wiki.makespace.org/Talk:Kit_wishlist"/>
				<updated>2012-11-03T12:47:30Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Rotwang: /* Workbench */ new section&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;== PCB manufacturing tools ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I disagree with the lack of need for chemical PCB etch/expose equipment. The milling technique is quite slow and expensive and not the a very cost effective use of milling equipment, except maybe for prototyping very small boards. Also the proposed mill will not be able to produce high quality PCB with fine traces and pads for SMT components. [[User:TH|TH]] 17:38, 15 March 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I second that.  Milling is good for drilling holes, and has a niche for fast turnaround tiny boards (ie babysit the machine for 3 hours, not wait a week).  The accuracy is pretty poor, so forget any kind of fine-pitch surface mount (even SOIC is pushing it on our machine).  Milling tips are expensive and snap regularly.  It's very easy to get the depth wrong, snap the tip or gouge great grooves out of your board.  You'll always get far better definition from optical transfer and chemical etch, even basic methods eg laser-printed projector film and UV exposure.  That level of basic chemical etch is worth having, as well as some recommended cheap low-volume board fabs (eg Olimex or pcb.laen.org - both non-UK ones I haven't tried; are there any cheap local ones?) [[User:TheoMarkettos|TheoMarkettos]] 23:56, 20 May 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I'm not convinced either way, yet. If it's a one-off simple project then veroboard etc is probably just as good a way to go. If it's more adventurous, with SM, two or more sides, 0.25mm track and gap or less, etc, then getting PCB made by professionals is likely to work much better. And etch chemicals adds a whole layer of COSH and Health and Safety hassle. [[User:Kim SJ|Kim SJ]] 11:24, 17 October 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There some bag-type etching systems that could be used if you are really eager to do etching. I have made lots of boards with silkscreen, pen, tape, etc and it is a low-quality result unless you put a lot of money into the kit. The best option for Makespace would be laser foil transfer with a small seal-able bag with copper sulfate (ferric cloride is messy and needs spray to do well). As this is almost all consumables (foil and chemical) people who want to do this could do it at home as easily as at makespace. There are low-cost pick and place robots if making PCBs was a big priority however. That needs a lot of boards to justify, and if you have a lot of boards, subcontract it. (Michael)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Loading Trolleys ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Given the fact that we can expect members to be moving some moderately large projects and tools in an out of the space, it would probably be a good idea to have a couple of loading trolleys. In particular this would help with getting heavier items from a car paused in Mill Lane. -- [[User:AndrewD|AndrewD]] 15:48, 2 November 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Workbench ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I have a pipe vice to donate which will grip round stuff from 20mm conduit upwards to a maximum of about 3inch diameter. It needs to be mounted to a reasonably substantial bench.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Rotwang</name></author>	</entry>

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