http://wiki.makespace.org/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Talk%3AEquipment%2FCNC_RouterTalk:Equipment/CNC Router - Revision history2026-07-29T05:09:37ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.22.6http://wiki.makespace.org/index.php?title=Talk:Equipment/CNC_Router&diff=2665&oldid=prevST: historical notes2013-05-12T10:18:22Z<p>historical notes</p>
<p><b>New page</b></p><div>== Original Requirements Notes ==<br />
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* CNC Controlled<br />
* Minimum 4' x 4' cutting bed<br />
** It was generally concluded whilst 8' x 4' would be attractive, it may have limits in terms of floor space and also materials storage and handling - storing and moving 8' x 4' sheets on to a flatbed machine is a pretty impractical task in a full workshop, and certainly not a 1 man job. <br />
** We concluded we could store a lot of sheet material in 4' x 4' and 600 x 900 for the router and laser respectively (and for general use), making storage much more tractable and avoiding the need to cut down such large sheets.<br />
* decent software<br />
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Maybe a Vacuum bed<br />
* Would make jobs quicker to setup (except vacuum beds sometimes require a custom 'mask' cutting to cover all the unused holes)<br />
* avoids risk of hitting clamps/bolts<br />
* Will be more expensive (new mask needed for each job?)<br />
* Unsure how "magical" a solution it is<br />
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== Options ==<br />
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Shopbot<br />
* The defacto FabLab CNC router<br />
* Would be from the [[http://www.shopbottools.com/mProducts/prSstandard.htm PRS Standard Range]]<br />
* Prices are roughly $11500 and $13000 for the 4x4 and 8x4 models<br />
* Ship from US (no distributors), by air or sea, and import duties etc payable<br />
* Quote from Shopbot: approx $15k/£10k + shipping/taxes for 4x4, 8x8 would be approx £2k more<br />
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Piranha<br />
* Look like imports, sold by radecal <br />
* Include internal vacuum bed<br />
* Available in 4x4 and 4x8. 4x4 and 4x8 both listed as weighing 800kg.<br />
* 4x8: http://www.radecalmachinesales.com/product.asp?cid=2&scid=&pid=18<br />
* 4x4: http://www.radecalmachinesales.com/product.asp?cid=2&scid=&pid=70<br />
* Quote from radecal: TBC (guessing about £13k and £18k)<br />
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HPC Laser CNC<br />
* Not clear what is available or specs; assume it is china import again, but could be interesting to go with HPC given great service<br />
* 1200x1200 looks like it might be: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HPC-CNC-router-1200-x1200-engraver-CNC-Machine-sign-making-UK-stock-/150966295622<br />
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Others<br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
|-<br />
| Machine <br />
|URL <br />
|Price (UKP) <br />
|Size - X <br />
|Size - Y <br />
|Size - Z<br />
|Weight<br />
|Notes<br />
|-<br />
|Heiz S400 <br />
|[http://www.prototools.co.uk/shop/customer/product.php?productid=18501&cat=0 link]<br />
|£1595 <br />
|400 <br />
|300 <br />
|110<br />
|31kg<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|Heiz S720 <br />
|[http://www.prototools.co.uk/shop/customer/product.php?productid=18502&cat=0 link] <br />
|£1995 <br />
|720 <br />
|420 <br />
|110<br />
|41kg<br />
|Videos - [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SRSObYk_W0 Making PCB][http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjPLXCr1g5E Machining metal][http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3snGuqixEg Engraving in wood]<br />
|-<br />
|Heiz S1000<br />
|[http://www.prototools.co.uk/shop/customer/product.php?productid=18503&cat=521&page=1 link] <br />
|£2395 <br />
|1000 <br />
|600 <br />
|110<br />
|51kg<br />
|£4012 including all options and VAT<br />
|-<br />
|HPCLaser RC6090<br />
|[http://www.lasermachinemaker.com/5-2-advertising-cnc-router.html link]<br />
|£3750+VAT<br />
|600<br />
|900<br />
|65<br />
|200kg<br />
|Up to 24000rpm, 30mm cutting thickness. From same supplier as Laser cutter. Upgraded spindle from one listed. Claimed accuracy of 10 micron.<br />
|-<br />
|}<br />
Weight gives an indication of stiffness and quality for a given size of machine. Shopbots weight is not listed</div>ST