Agenda for Thursday 11/10/12

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There are a range of things we could talk about this week as noted at Madespace.


We should focus on the items needing most urgent decisions, or with long lead times. Perhaps some of:

  • Priorities: what’s important first? chairs, internet, kit??
  • Community engagement & Culture (this intersects with Rules - eg is alcohol allowed or not) It's important because it will start to crystallise quite quickly, and once a culture is set it will be tough to change
  • Where are we on the shiny / less shiny spectrum? (this affects how potential sponsors might view the space, as well as people’s attitudes to the space, whether they feel involved/responsible and so on)
  • Donations: what do we take? What do we not take?
  • What have we forgotten? What else should we be talking about?
  • Makespace Use Cases to inform the use of space
    • What uses can be made of Makespace that aren't represented by current founder community
    • How can the space be arranged to be useful/flexible for these groups
    • When to start reaching out to groups currently not represented
  • What furniture should be placed where, what we are missing and could do with
  • Timescale targets

Proposed agenda:

1. Introductions

2. Discussion of which topics (as above) should be priorities

3. Selection of 1-2 topics for the evening

4. Working...

5. Wrap up and sharing results

6. Planning next meeting

Notes

1. Introductions

About 20 of us :)

2.

Priority should be entrance system / fire detection / fire signage

Internet is also popular

we don't have a timesacle for this tuff yet but we know it's the critical path


Tool safety policies: even for personal use, needs to be safe

Rules for being in space - for now; for later

community rules - safety rules - values

access control - rules for last exit

health and safety office first aid officer

policies and procedures eg for firstaid

flourestent lights and rotating machinery


RFID inventory / corner cases of asset register


fab lab vs tech shop

described...

do we want to have totally dependable kit / functions -- even commercial might not depend upon kit being available.

tidyness: fine to tidy up unmarked kit

who do we moan at if we're a member of the community? - committee formation (TBC)

if stuff breaks do we self-organise and try to fix it, or is there an official fixing person...

who is authorised to spend money?

maintenance committee - who at least identify who could repair it... key thing is that peopel know what to do - clarity

and sometimes we might not want someone overconfident to attempt a fix...

equipment database - broken stuff marked asap - may also mail a contact

makespace.org/ibrokeit

IP - your problem

want collaboration in the space

remember founders aren't representative of everyone.

subset mailing list so one address goes to - breakspace@makespace

sleek vs random - perhaps appropriate spaces for different use cases

what spaces are what: classroom is for quiet meetings, not for hammering... also for external groups

Shiny enough to be respected but not ludicrously so

different behaviour standards in different areas

balance of number of rules - not too many, not too few.


Use Cases

  • come with laptop, get coffee, work on laptop quietly , plug RPi into something, and work with someone else to fix the circuit and do whiteboard ideas
  • space to come to, drink coffee, bounce ideas with others, then use kit I don't have at home (larger: mills, lathes, CNC router) x10 people
  • part of space nice couches to discuss things, cosy, but also somewhere to come for soldering to play around with things. sewing machines, fixing broken things
  • autocad inventor full system on a desktop machine
  • autocad tuition / sessions - for surface design, for 3d things,
  • lectures on things
  • work harder metal than i can at home with more precision than i can at home (more than 1mm precision) - tool part tooling x3
  • classes on workflows eg 3d printing (design, manufacture, etc)
  • teaching -
  • be a mentor. Be mentored "electronics expert will be here on monday night"
  • come after work, a couple of nights a week, microwave for ready meal. facilities for software, pcb etching, soldering, lathes, welding
  • craft knife and scissors area for simple clean work eg textiles where the surface is nice and clean
  • space where it's ok to leave some messy bits or sawdust!
  • drying area for things to set or glue
  • curtains for spatter areas
  • MDF is carcinogenic - proper extractors
  • welding
  • surface mount assembly
  • makespace goes beyond the wall - we can have partnerships with other workshops
  • desktop power supplies, scope, multimeter, logic analyser
  • components kitty - resistors etc
  • want to bring some friends / students to show them round. bring students to show and tell quadcopters, and get ideas from whoever is around.
  • bring kids to space at the weekend to come in, make some things, see what's going on
  • engineering education in schools - mentoring school groups - potential access to show and tell school groups. and potentially to do some work
  • goal: use lots of 3d printers. any would be useful. but a good one would be nice. at the same time low end one for try outs would be good. Multiple 3d printers!
  • come from office, laser cut some bits, back to office
  • extra monitors for laptop use
  • good bit of space for test gear - not next to noisy/vibration stuff; good lighting environment
  • equally quiet spaces are common, you can go anywhere for that
  • space to talk which isn't super noisy - cafes close, pubs are rowdy
  • "library" - quiet space for research, coding,

What can we founders do next?

people want to meet people as much as make things!

elevenses in common room - enforced nattering at fixed time. at for day time people, for evening people, for weekend people

Do we want a TV? Do we want a radio?

- both cultural question and licencsing one
  • people who want to do quiet work and have a break without necessarily being sociable.
  • what about coworking?
- proposal
- ideaspace - £300/mth or £6o for no fixed desk
- 

RFID logging - good for usage tracking. data protection questions

equally if people pay more, we get good money

no guarantee of quiet or of desk

  • bookshelf for 3d printing mags, old o'reilly cave at heffers


community values


community rules

  • what is unacceptable behaviour
- if you use the kit in a way which is concerning to others (for whatever reason) - then that's banned
  • no individuals to bring alcohol? is alcohol essential to culture? (no individuals to use kit after drinking, anyway)

- tough one - "if you are done for the day, you can have a drink, but then NO kit"

- decision of committee is final. 
  • no overnight sleeping in the space
- it's  a creeping thing. 

Achieve a culture where we can talk about it, without splitting hairs about definition of sleep...


  • Rules are there for the people who have to enforce them.
  •  ? rules are tough and odd blind eye, or relaxed rules but if there's a problem then raise it.
  • we can change the rules!
  • resource allocation - eg for 2 day print jobs


values

  • People using kit should be in a fit state to do so
  • don't piss off others - do unto others - be respectful
  • safety first
  • be reasonable
  • respect diversity of space users
  • encourage and support beginners / anyone / all skill&knowledge levels
  • feel able/entitled/required to stop unsafe happenings
  • collaboration is good
  • collectively improving space - everyone's responsibility to make it better
  • respect the space
  • collective ownership of makespace
  • MORE than : leave this space as you'd like to find it
  • the space is everyone's
  • reporting accidents/mistakes/damage etc is encouraged - not a blame culture.

(do we want confidential/anonymous reporting? for reporter or for who is being reported about -- yes )

  • makespace is always a work in progres????
  • inclusivity -- welcoming to all
  • fun (not compulsory)
  • asking questions is encouraged "ask questions" - alwayas acceptable to ask (but don't feel bad if you can't answer right then)
  • don't treat any question as stupid
  • it's a shared space and shared kit - be consscious of others
  • we're all here to learn&improve
  • share and enjoy