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= Summary =
 
= Summary =
  
We have a Myford super 7 lathe kindly donated to us by Martin Levine. It is a quality machine in fair condition but it is capable of causing severe injury so it must only be used by those trained to operate it safely. The 'owners' are responsible for training new users and ensuring that it is maintained in a safe condition.  
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We have a Myford super 7 lathe kindly donated on a long-term loan by Martha Levine. It is a quality machine in fair condition but it is capable of causing severe injury so it must only be used by those trained to operate it safely. The 'owners' are responsible for training new users and ensuring that it is maintained in a safe condition.  
  
 
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= Using the lathe =
 
= Using the lathe =
  
The Myford is a metal turning lathe capable of machining round material up to about 18cm (7 inches) in diameter and about 45cm (18") long.  
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The Myford is a metal turning lathe capable of machining circular cuts in material up to about 18cm (7 inches) in diameter and about 45cm (18") long. We also have vertical slides so milling operations can be performed on material up to about 10cm (4") cubed. The lathe is solidly built so with care micrometer level precision can be obtained. We now have a good selection of cutting tools and work handling apparatus so a wide range of different cutting operations can be performed on a wide range of materials. Some of our accessories are listed at
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[[http://wiki.makespace.org/Lathe_accessories|Lathe Accessories]]
  
== Safety ==
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= Health and Safety =
  
 
The workpiece is spun at high speed with great force. Clothing or hair caught in the workpiece will not slow the motor! Before starting take time to check there is nothing likely to be caught in the machine.
 
The workpiece is spun at high speed with great force. Clothing or hair caught in the workpiece will not slow the motor! Before starting take time to check there is nothing likely to be caught in the machine.
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Sharp edged chips can be thrown off the workpiece at high speed so eye protection is important.
  
 
The chuck key left in the chuck when the motor is started could become a missile. Before starting the motor make sure the chuck, and anything mounted in it, will not hit anything.
 
The chuck key left in the chuck when the motor is started could become a missile. Before starting the motor make sure the chuck, and anything mounted in it, will not hit anything.
  
Metal turnings have very sharp edges. Avoid touching them whenever possible and use the brush provided to clean up swarf.
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Metal turnings have very sharp edges. Avoid touching them whenever possible and use the brush provided to clean up the swarf.
  
To achieve real safety user attitude is key. Trying to achieve unrealistic goals in limited time is the prime cause of accidents. Please take the time to plan your work and gain sufficient knowledge to perform it safely.  
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To achieve real safety operator attitude is key. Trying to achieve unrealistic goals in limited time is the prime cause of accidents. Please take the time to plan your work and gain sufficient knowledge to perform it safely.
  
== Owners ==
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The risk assessment is at [[Equipment/lathe/RA]].
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= Owners =
  
 
The owners are experienced users who have volunteered to ensure members know how to safely operate the lathe before they become approved users. Their next responsibility is to ensure the lathe is in a safe usable condition. Time permitting, they will advise users on how to make best use of the lathe.  
 
The owners are experienced users who have volunteered to ensure members know how to safely operate the lathe before they become approved users. Their next responsibility is to ensure the lathe is in a safe usable condition. Time permitting, they will advise users on how to make best use of the lathe.  
  
So far the owners are Roger Smith and Robert Copcutt.
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So far the owners are;
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* Roger Smith  
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* [[user:RobCopcutt|Robert Copcutt]]
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* Jonny Waite
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* Diana Probst
  
== Training ==
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= Training =
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<b>THE LATHE CAN CAUSE SERIOUS INJURY. ONLY APPROVED OPERATORS ARE PERMITTED TO USE IT.</b><br>
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THE LATHE CAN CAUSE SERIOUS INJURY. ONLY APPROVED OPERATORS ARE PERMITTED TO USE IT.
 
  
 
To get the required training to become an approved operator please contact one of the owners.
 
To get the required training to become an approved operator please contact one of the owners.
  
The owners will help users make the best use of the lathe but it must be emphasised that learning to take full advantage of all the capabilities of it takes months of practice. The owners have limited time so members will need to take responsibility for much of their own training.
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The owners will help users make the best use of the lathe but it must be emphasised that learning to take full advantage of all the capabilities of it takes months of practice. The owners have limited time so members will need to take responsibility for much of their own training. More details about the training can be found at
  
== Instructions ==
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* [[Equipment/Lathe/Training|Lathe Training]]
  
There is a book, "Myford series 7 manual", by Ian Bradley available in the workshop (please do not remove it). We also a Lathe safety manual from the CRC. These provide a comprehensive guide to using the Myford. If you want to use the lathe, or simple know what it can do, please have a look at these publications - in Makespace.
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= Instructions =
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There is a book, "Myford series 7 manual", by Ian Bradley available in the workshop (please do not remove it). We also have a Lathe safety manual from the CRC. These provide a comprehensive guide to using the Myford. If you want to use the lathe, or simple know what it can do, please have a look at these publications - in Makespace.
  
 
= Maintenance =
 
= Maintenance =
  
The lathe bed should be frequently brushed clean and re-oiled to minimize wear on the slides.
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The lathe bed should be frequently brushed clean and re-oiled to minimize wear on the precision slides.
  
There are several oil pots that need topping up occasionally.  
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Three of the bearings have oil pots that need topping up occasionally.
  
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The two drive belts need replacing if they get worn or damaged.
  
= Historical discussion on buying a new or used lathe =
 
  
Large used lathes sell for cheap. They have the capacity to work large pieces, and they may be of very high quality for the price. Transporting them is difficult: they can weigh (literally) a ton. Getting spares when they arrive incomplete, they break, or we want accessories could be very difficult. Making a decision as a group about what to buy could be very difficult -- the used market is a moving target.
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= Peripheral tools and accessories =
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Photo-list of current [[Equipment/Lathe/Accessories|lathe accessories]].
  
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Running the lathe will require many accessories, there is a suggested list here:
  
New lathes cost a lot, but there are entry level lathes of reasonable quality that would get us started. The downsides are a more limited capacity, and a less rigid machine. The small machines coming out of China dominate the small-lathe market, and buying one of these would make it easy to get spares and accessories from multiple sources. There is also an online community of hobbyists using them that we could draw upon. Chester, Machine-Mart, Axminster, and Arc Euro Trade all re-brand and sell very similar Chinese lathes.
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http://www.mini-lathe.com/Mini_lathe/Accessories/accessories.htm
  
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= Lathe Inserts (replaceable cutting tips) =
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There are selection of replaceable cutting inserts for the lathes. Replaceable inserts reduce the need sharpening and grinding of custom tools. They can be purchased from:
  
== Desirable Features ==
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http://www.glanze.co.uk/acatalog/Replacement_Inserts___Spares.html (please feel free to list other sources)
  
* Thread cutting
 
* Variable speed
 
* Quick change tool post
 
 
 
== Concrete suggestions ==
 
 
The following small lathes have the features:
 
 
* http://www.chestermachinetools.com/products/detail/2 -- 332.50 ex. vat
 
* http://www.chestermachinetools.com/products/detail/3 -- 415.83 ex. vat
 
 
 
Joe says that these are rather small, and he knows, from experience, that they are easy to knock out of alignment. He recommends a bigger machine for beginners:
 
 
http://www.warco.co.uk/metal-lathes-metalworking-lathe-machine/19-wm280v-f-variable-speed-lathe.html -- 1,575.00 inc. VAT
 
 
(MT) That looks like a very good lathe. There still could be a place for a smaller, less expensive lathe in addition to a big lathe. If the Chester one is not a good choice for this, what about something like:
 
http://www.warco.co.uk/metal-lathes-metalworking-lathe-machine/15-wm-180-variable-speed-lathe.html - 725.00 inc vat
 
 
And in the same spirit for a lower cost milling machine:
 
http://www.warco.co.uk/milling-machines/36-major-milling-drilling-machine.html 1100.00 inc
 
 
== Peripheral tools and accessories ==
 
Photo-list of current [[lathe accessories]].
 
 
Running the lathe will require many accessories, there is a suggested list here:
 
 
http://www.mini-lathe.com/Mini_lathe/Accessories/accessories.htm
 
  
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The list below is provided as a guide if anyone needs to purchase replacements.
  
List desired accessories below:
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{| class="wikitable"
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|-
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! Supplier
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! Supplier Part Number
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! Description
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! Cost
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! Comments
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| Glanze.co.uk
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| CGGSP
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| 2 mm Parting Insert             
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| £4.55
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| (Inc. VAT Sold Individually)
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|-
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| Glanze.co.uk
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| CCMT060204S.
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| £2.30
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| (Inc. VAT Each when purchased in Box of 10)
  
* HSS tool blanks
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* Tailstock chuck
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| Glanze.co.uk
* Vertical slide attachment (enables limited milling operations)
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| DCGT
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|       
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| £2.40
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| (Inc. VAT Each when purchased in Box of 10)
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|}

Revision as of 22:44, 10 August 2016

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Equipment / Lathe
Our Myford super 7

Summary

We have a Myford super 7 lathe kindly donated on a long-term loan by Martha Levine. It is a quality machine in fair condition but it is capable of causing severe injury so it must only be used by those trained to operate it safely. The 'owners' are responsible for training new users and ensuring that it is maintained in a safe condition.

Using the lathe

The Myford is a metal turning lathe capable of machining circular cuts in material up to about 18cm (7 inches) in diameter and about 45cm (18") long. We also have vertical slides so milling operations can be performed on material up to about 10cm (4") cubed. The lathe is solidly built so with care micrometer level precision can be obtained. We now have a good selection of cutting tools and work handling apparatus so a wide range of different cutting operations can be performed on a wide range of materials. Some of our accessories are listed at [Accessories]

Health and Safety

The workpiece is spun at high speed with great force. Clothing or hair caught in the workpiece will not slow the motor! Before starting take time to check there is nothing likely to be caught in the machine.

Sharp edged chips can be thrown off the workpiece at high speed so eye protection is important.

The chuck key left in the chuck when the motor is started could become a missile. Before starting the motor make sure the chuck, and anything mounted in it, will not hit anything.

Metal turnings have very sharp edges. Avoid touching them whenever possible and use the brush provided to clean up the swarf.

To achieve real safety operator attitude is key. Trying to achieve unrealistic goals in limited time is the prime cause of accidents. Please take the time to plan your work and gain sufficient knowledge to perform it safely.

The risk assessment is at Equipment/lathe/RA.

Owners

The owners are experienced users who have volunteered to ensure members know how to safely operate the lathe before they become approved users. Their next responsibility is to ensure the lathe is in a safe usable condition. Time permitting, they will advise users on how to make best use of the lathe.

So far the owners are;

Training

THE LATHE CAN CAUSE SERIOUS INJURY. ONLY APPROVED OPERATORS ARE PERMITTED TO USE IT.


To get the required training to become an approved operator please contact one of the owners.

The owners will help users make the best use of the lathe but it must be emphasised that learning to take full advantage of all the capabilities of it takes months of practice. The owners have limited time so members will need to take responsibility for much of their own training. More details about the training can be found at

Instructions

There is a book, "Myford series 7 manual", by Ian Bradley available in the workshop (please do not remove it). We also have a Lathe safety manual from the CRC. These provide a comprehensive guide to using the Myford. If you want to use the lathe, or simple know what it can do, please have a look at these publications - in Makespace.

Maintenance

The lathe bed should be frequently brushed clean and re-oiled to minimize wear on the precision slides.

Three of the bearings have oil pots that need topping up occasionally.

The two drive belts need replacing if they get worn or damaged.


Peripheral tools and accessories

Photo-list of current lathe accessories.

Running the lathe will require many accessories, there is a suggested list here:

http://www.mini-lathe.com/Mini_lathe/Accessories/accessories.htm

Lathe Inserts (replaceable cutting tips)

There are selection of replaceable cutting inserts for the lathes. Replaceable inserts reduce the need sharpening and grinding of custom tools. They can be purchased from:

http://www.glanze.co.uk/acatalog/Replacement_Inserts___Spares.html (please feel free to list other sources)


The list below is provided as a guide if anyone needs to purchase replacements.

Supplier Supplier Part Number Description Cost Comments
Glanze.co.uk CGGSP 2 mm Parting Insert £4.55 (Inc. VAT Sold Individually)
Glanze.co.uk CCMT060204S. £2.30 (Inc. VAT Each when purchased in Box of 10)
Glanze.co.uk DCGT £2.40 (Inc. VAT Each when purchased in Box of 10)